But there also was the unexpected as Suns four-time All-Star Amar'e Stoudemire, one of the key names expected on this summer's free agent market, said he sees the Nets' "potential" and would not automatically dismiss them.
"There are some teams you may say, 'no way,' " said the 6-foot-10 Stoudemire, who scored 27 points in the Suns' 118-94 win that dropped the Nets to 3-38 at the season's halfway point. "I don't think the Nets are one of them."
"Potential. Absolutely. I think that's a team with potential," Stoudemire said. "They can definitely contend in the near future [with] the right pieces."
Yes! Based off of Amare's comments earlier in the year I assumed we had no chance with him. He without question would be a perfect fit here and an incredible signing. I hope he remains open to us and the Nets do everything under the sun to get him in a Net uniform.
Amare and Brook would dominate! He wants to play in a large market NJ a small market but in Newark next year and Brooklyn in two. Could be
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"Market size does play a factor. There's a lot of different factors. Being able to win and if you can't win this year then how long would it take to build it to win," he said.
"It's all about being able to, and being willing to have a team that's willing to build a championship caliber team."
If the Nets do work out a deal, Yi would likely have to be included. The Suns are said to be looking for a combination of young players, draft picks and salary relief, all of which the Nets could provide.
They own 10 draft picks over the next three years, including as many as five first-rounders. They could also offer young players like Chris Douglas-Roberts, Courtney Lee and rookie Terrence Williams.
I think if the Nets really want Stoudemire they'll get him. We have exactly what they're looking for. Nobody is gonna give them a real young stud who will shortly be a star in a deal for Stoudemire like Dallas did for us in the Kidd deal, so I think a package of CDR, T-Will draft picks and expiring contracts could certinly get it done. I would hold off on trading Lee because he could be so good off the bench but... if they really wanted him I don't care if they trade him.
Trading Yi in this deal makes a lot of sense on the surface due to his age, position and potential but the Nets signed another Chinese sponsor for the Brooklyn arena about a month ago...I can't imagine they would be happy about Yi leaving. I would be thrilled to do it but it seems unlikely.
How about this package: Yi Jianlian, CDR, Hassel, Dallas' 2010 first round pick and T-Will? Of course we would need to sign Amare before or soon after making this deal.
I would not put T-Will and CDR in the same package for Stoudemire.Ilike CDR to let him go.Now i would surely throw Courtney Lee in the package because #1 i think Lee and Devin Harris are the 2 Cancers in the locker room and look at Lee's numbers he's not as good as everyone makes him out to be.
Now if i am Rod Thorn i would offer Dallas's first round pick, Golden States second round pick next year,our #1 protected from the the top 9 for the next 4 years and also protected if Stoudemire's eye and knee injury cause serious problems in the next 3 years,also Yi,Lee,CDR or T-Will and Boone for Stoudemire and C.Frye.
Very sorry i would not want Frye i would make that trade if they trade Stoudemire and Robin Lopez instead.The 2 Lopez brothers playing together would be awesome and he can rebound.
Getting FA Stoudamire would be great. You pair him and Brook together plus a top 4 pick and Devin Harris; if they decide to keep him; and that's a playoff team.
I wouldn't trade for him he'd come to this mess and surely bolt. Then again why would he leave 17 mill on the table when there are so many free agents? If I were him I'd wait till next summer.
Originally posted by rvc666: I would not put T-Will and CDR in the same package for Stoudemire.Ilike CDR to let him go.Now i would surely throw Courtney Lee in the package because #1 i think Lee and Devin Harris are the 2 Cancers in the locker room and look at Lee's numbers he's not as good as everyone makes him out to be.
Lee's style compliments the team better, CDR is a good scorer but dominates the ball. A good coach would bring him off the bench instead of starting him. Brook deserves most of the shots and since the two don't mesh well send CDR to the bench.
Show me where Lee compliments the team better.Let's see Lee play out of position and play Small Foward like CDR has and not complain and still do as good a job as CDR.Just look at there numbers and you will see the difference.Plain and simple Lee stinks and he was a mistake in the Carter trade.I personally would have taken JJ Reddick for Carter.As for CDR dominatinating the ball just look at there last game 2for 4 shooting it's Harris and Lee Dominating the ball and now with Harris out it's Dooling and Lee dominating the ball.The guards are dominating the ball,taking most of the shots and only hittin around 37% field goals and trust me those 2 are the cancer in the locker room.
CDR is proving himself to be the better player at this point and certainly more capable of starting but I agree with BDB where he said that Lee compliments the team better due to him being a high percentage shooter and an excellent role player (for Orlando)...evidently he only shoots well when he's a role player because he's been a mediocre/poor starter up until this point. Having a Pg who shoots as much as Harris, it's important not to have "chuckers" around him. But uf we get Wall then it doesn't matter. The only thing truely settled with this franchise is the Center position. Everything else is up in the air and debateable.
Either way it doesn't seem to matter because according to reports things aren't serious between us and the Suns. I still expect it to change because the Suns aren't gonna lose him for free and Thorn loves to make an unexpected big splash. Even if it isn't to us I think there's a good chance Amare is traded.
I agree that Thorn likes to make the unexpected trade like he did with Kidd and then Carter when we stole him from Toronto.So my only hope is that somehow with all our draft picks we have he can some now steal Chris Bosh from Toronto.
As for chuckers that tag fits Harris and Lee to a tee. As for Lee he is definetly a role player coming off the bench.Kiki should try startingg T-Will at shooting guard and see how he does, it couldn't be no worse then Lee starting.Something has to be done otherwise the team doesn't win another game.
Originally posted by rvc666: Show me where Lee compliments the team better.Let's see Lee play out of position and play Small Foward like CDR has and not complain and still do as good a job as CDR.Just look at there numbers and you will see the difference.Plain and simple Lee stinks and he was a mistake in the Carter trade.I personally would have taken JJ Reddick for Carter.As for CDR dominatinating the ball just look at there last game 2for 4 shooting it's Harris and Lee Dominating the ball and now with Harris out it's Dooling and Lee dominating the ball.The guards are dominating the ball,taking most of the shots and only hittin around 37% field goals and trust me those 2 are the cancer in the locker room.
With Amare on this team Lee would compliment better since he's a good defender and passes into the post. The only problem could be his shooting but with a better team he'd be depended on less. As far as playing out of position can CDR play his natural at shooting guard? If so he'd be a lot less effective. It's hard to slash as a guard when you can't shoot look at Devin Harris. No question trading for Reddick would be better we'd still have Ryan Anderson too.
I'm pretty sure if CDR played his natural position of Shooting Guard he would do alright as for his slashing and shooting close to the basket yes he does that really good and also after working on his jumper all summer that has gotten pretty good to he is shhoting 46 % FG.And if you remember when RJ came into the league he was the same way and after 2 summers of working on his jumper and 3 point shooting his numbers went way up. Now Defensively look at who the man is guarding every night and look at who Courtney Lee is guarding i do not see Lee guarding LeBron,Carmelo, Kobe,Pierce or any of the great scorering Small Fowards in the league and remember not once have i read anywhere that he has complained about guarding them the only thing he has been complaining about is the loosing and if people don't like him complaing about that then they could all kiss ***. Who cares Brook Lopez and CDR in my opinion of watching the Nets they are the only ones who seem to show any emotion about losing.
Did you catch last night's game? Last night Lee was out and CDR played 2 guard and they won?! So you're right he should be starting at 2 guard and Lee, they can do whatever with him... Terrance Williams got more playing time and shined looked like the lottery pick he is.
I still think the team needs to get a small forward but they have two promising players in CDR, Terrance.
I was at the game last night and i am watching the game right now and from seeing it up close and on TV now all i see of Lee is someone who doesn't care still wishes he was still in Orlando.It may be that he just had a tooth pulled but show some excitement that your team is doing good.And yes we do neeed a Small Foward.
