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Originally posted by Lucky:

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What a wasteland AAA Buffalo is!! The roster stands at 25,12 are 30 years of age or over and 3 more are near 29!! To add insult to injury,now our prize prospect has experienced a bump in the road and is currently hitting .233,learning how to lose on a 2-16 team !!! It is not fun being a Mets fan currently.

eh what can you do.

it's a shame the gem pitching prospects are in the lower levels because guys like niese, gee, and antonini being your best major league ready pitching prospects isn't good at all.

Leave Antonini out of the 'not so good' equation!! He hasn't done anything but succeed thusfar. Niese definitely hit a wall and Gee looks like a carbon copy of Brian Bannister however.

antonini has great numbers but he doesn't have great stuff to get mlb hitters out .. think ian kennedy. niese, gee, and antonini are all #5 starters at best.

where as guys like beaulac, holt, calero, mejia, carson, and allen all have front end potential.

Mets 5157,did you WATCH Antonini in spring training? He has an exceptional hook with a decent fastball in the 89-92 range and can command both. I SAW it!!! Did you??

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Originally posted by Lucky:
What a wasteland AAA Buffalo is!! The roster stands at 25,12 are 30 years of age or over and 3 more are near 29!! To add insult to injury,now our prize prospect has experienced a bump in the road and is currently hitting .233,learning how to lose on a 2-16 team !!! It is not fun being a Mets fan currently.

eh what can you do.

it's a shame the gem pitching prospects are in the lower levels because guys like niese, gee, and antonini being your best major league ready pitching prospects isn't good at all.

Leave Antonini out of the 'not so good' equation!! He hasn't done anything but succeed thusfar. Niese definitely hit a wall and Gee looks like a carbon copy of Brian Bannister however.

antonini has great numbers but he doesn't have great stuff to get mlb hitters out .. think ian kennedy. niese, gee, and antonini are all #5 starters at best.

where as guys like beaulac, holt, calero, mejia, carson, and allen all have front end potential.

Mets 5157,did you WATCH Antonini in spring training? He has an exceptional hook with a decent fastball in the 89-92 range and can command both. I SAW it!!! Did you??

good lord your love for average players is weird ... antonini is no more than a #5 and he's behind the ranking of the mets because they have players with better stuff.

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Originally posted by Lucky:

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Originally posted by Lucky:

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Originally posted by MetsFan5157:

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Originally posted by Lucky:
What a wasteland AAA Buffalo is!! The roster stands at 25,12 are 30 years of age or over and 3 more are near 29!! To add insult to injury,now our prize prospect has experienced a bump in the road and is currently hitting .233,learning how to lose on a 2-16 team !!! It is not fun being a Mets fan currently.

eh what can you do.

it's a shame the gem pitching prospects are in the lower levels because guys like niese, gee, and antonini being your best major league ready pitching prospects isn't good at all.

Leave Antonini out of the 'not so good' equation!! He hasn't done anything but succeed thusfar. Niese definitely hit a wall and Gee looks like a carbon copy of Brian Bannister however.

antonini has great numbers but he doesn't have great stuff to get mlb hitters out .. think ian kennedy. niese, gee, and antonini are all #5 starters at best.

where as guys like beaulac, holt, calero, mejia, carson, and allen all have front end potential.

Mets 5157,did you WATCH Antonini in spring training? He has an exceptional hook with a decent fastball in the 89-92 range and can command both. I SAW it!!! Did you??

good lord your love for average players is weird ... antonini is no more than a #5 and he's behind the ranking of the mets because they have players with better stuff.

Did you SEE those pitchers with better stuff?? How could you describe and conclude Antonini as average,when you evidently didn't WATCH him and the Organization never intimated the southpaw as such? Conversely,Minaya indicated he is highly regarded and is near ready to pitch at the major league level. What you are obviously doing is compiling mere numbers, subsequently creating a pecking order that may not exist,and defining young talent in a manner that the Organization hasn't. That is weird,unless you are their superscout!!!!

aaa:

rf - fernando martinez - 3 for 4 | .260 ba
lf - nick evans - 0 for 2 | bb(12) | .098 ba
ss - jose coronado - 1 for 2 | .119 ba
sp - jon niese - 6.0 ip | 3 h | r(er) | bb | 8 k | 6.55 era

a+:

2b - greg veloz - 1 for 5 | .227 ba
cf - kirk nieuwenhuis - 2 for 4 | 2b(5) | 2 rbi(7) | .244 ba
ss - reese havens - 2 for 3 | 2b(7) | rbi(12) | 2 bb(12) | .289 ba
1b - ike davis - 1 for 5 | .298 ba
sp - brad holt - 5.0 ip | 4 h | 2 r(2 er) | bb | 4 k | 5.79 era
rp - nicholas waechter - 2.2 ip | h | r(er) | bb | 4 k | 2-0 | 4.05 era
rp - stephen clyne - 1.1 ip | h | s(1) | 1.59 era

a:

3b - jefry marte - 2 for 4 | .278 ba
ss - wilmer flores - 0 for 4 | .280 ba
1b - eric campbell - 2 for 4 | bb() | .279 ba
lf - sean ratliff - 1 for 4 | 2b(5) | rbi(11) | bb(8) | .297 ba
c - kai gronauer - 1 for 4 | .217 ba
2b - josh satin - 2 for 4 | rbi(7) | .370 ba
sp - elvin ramirez - 6.0 ip | h | 2 bb | 6 k | 2.96 era
rp - jimmy johnson - 1.0 ip | 1-0 | 1.32 era
rp - erik turgeon - 0.1 ip | bb | s(3) | 2.35 era

I'm really shocked at Nick Evans. What happened to him? I know he's nothing special as a future everyday player but he's doing horrible after a great spring.

he's hurting his trade value

aaa:

game 1

lf - fernando martinez - 2 for 3 | 2b(9) | hr(2) | 2 rbi(10) | .275 ba
ss - jose coronado - 0 for 2 | bb(8) | .117 ba
sp - dillon gee - 7.0 ip | 6 h | r(er) | k | 4.33 era |1-3

game 2

lf - fernando martinez - 0 for 3 | .265 ba
ss - jose coronado - 2 for 3 | sb(2) | .141

aa:

c - josh thole - 0 for 2 | 3 bb(11) | .371 ba
lf - lucas duda - 1 for 4 | bb() | .304 ba
dh - shawn bowman - 0 for 3 | rbi(13) | bb(16) | .244 ba
sp - michael antonini - 4.0 ip | 8 h | 6 r(6 er) | bb | 3 k | 3-1 | 5.84 era

a+:

2b - greg veloz - 1 for 4 | .228 ba
cf - kirk nieuwenhuis - 2 for 4 | 2b(6) | hr(3) | rbi(8) | .256 ba
ss - reese havens - 1 for 3 | rbi(13) | bb(13) | .291 ba
1b - ike davis - 1 for 4 | .295 ba
c - francisco pena - 0 for 4 | .200 ba
sp - jenrry mejia - 8.0 ip | 3 h | bb | 6 k | 1-1 | 2.36 era

a:

ss - wilmer flores - 1 for 3 | .282 ba
3b - jefry marte - 0 for 4 | .266 ba
cf - sean ratliff - 4 for 4 | 3 2b(8) | .326 ba
1b - eric campbell - 1 for 4 | 2b(2) | rbi(16) | .278 ba
c - kai gronauer - 1 for 4 | .220 ba
dh - josh satin - 0 for 3 | bb(10) | .355 ba
sp - jeurys familia - 4.0 ip | h | 3 r | 5 bb | k | 2-2 | 1.14 era
rp - josh stinson - 2.0 ip | h | 2 bb | 3 k | 3.29 era
rp - rhiner cruz - 1.0 ip | k | 2.38 era

aaa:

rf - fernando martinez - 3 for 4 | 2b(10) | hr(3) | 3 rbi(13) | .287 ba
lf - nick evans - 1 for 4 | .108 ba
ss - jose coronado - 1 for 3 | 2b(2) | bb(9) | .149 ba

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c - jose thole - 0 for 4 | rbi(5) | .348 ba
1b - lucas duda - 1 for 4 | .300 ba
dh - shawn bowman - 1 for 3 | hr(2) | 2 rbi(15) | bb(7) | .247 ba
ss - ruben tejada - 2 for 2 | bb(13) | .246 ba
sp - dylan owen - 5.0 ip | 7 h | 3 r(3 er) | bb | 3 k | 6.66 era
rp - roy merritt - 1.0 ip | 2 bb | 1.84 era

a+:

2b - greg veloz - 0 for 5 | .216 ba
cf - kirk nieuwenhuis - 0 for 4 | bb() | .244 ba
ss - reese havens - 3 for 5 | hr(5) | rbi(14) | .308 ba
1b - ike davis - 2 for 5 | .301 ba
c - francisco pena - 2 for 5 | .215 ba
sp - scott shaw - 6.0 ip | 6 h | 4 r(4 er) | 6 k | 2 hr/all | 1-2 | 3.41 era
rp - matias carrillo - 0.2 ip | k | 4.50 era

a:

ss - wilmer flores - 1 for 4 | .280 ba
1b - eric campbell - 1 for 3 | bb(9) | .280 ba
dh - sean ratliff - 4 for 4 | 3 2b(11) | hr(3) | 3 rbi(14) | .354 ba
2b - josh satin - 1 for 3 | 2 rbi(9) | bb | .354 ba
3b - jefry marte - 0 for 4 | .255 ba
sp - jeffrey kaplan - 7.0 ip | 3 h | bb | 3 k | 2-1 | 1.00 era

F-Mart on fire!

aa:

c - jose thole - 2 for 4 | bb(12) | .352 ba
3b - shawn bowman - 1 for 5 | rbi(16) | .244 ba
1b - lucas duda - 1 for 5 | .292 ba
ss - ruben tejada - 1 for 4 | .243 ba
rp - roy merritt - 0.1 ip | 3 h | 3 r(3 er) | hr/all | 0-2 | 3.60 era

a+:

2b - greg veloz - 2 for 5 | 2b(5) | rbi(7) | .225 ba
cf - kirk nieuwenhuis - 2 for 5 | 3b(1) | rbi(9) | .253 ba
ss - reese havens - 0 for 5 | .292 ba
1b - ike davis - 0 for 3 | 2 bb(11) | .292 ba
c - francisco pena - 2 for 5 | .229 ba
sp - angel calero - 5.0 ip | 7 h | 3 r(3 er) | 3 bb | 6 k | 2.00 era
rp - brant rustich - 3.0 ip | 3 r | 4 bb | k | 1.13 era

a:

ss - wilmer flores - 1 for 4 | .279 ba
1b - eric campbell - 1 for 3 | bb(10) | .281 ba
cf - sean ratliff - 0 for 4 | .340 ba
2b - josh satin - 1 for 4 | 2b(5) | 2 rbi(11) | .349 ba
3b - jefry marte - 0 for 4 | .245 ba
c - kai gronauer - 0 for 3 | bb(3) | .208
sp - robert carson - 6.0 ip | 3 h | 3 r | 3 bb | 2 k | 2.70 era
rp - erik turgeon - 1.1 ip | 2 h | 2 r(2 er) | 2 bb | 2 k | 1-1 | 4.00 era
rp - jimmy johnson - 1.2 ip | 2 k | 1.17 era

aaa:

rf - fernando martinez - 0 for 3 | .278 ba
lf - nick evans - 0 for 3 | .103 ba
ss - jose coronado - 0 for 1 | bb(10) | .147 ba

aa:

c - josh thole - 1 for 3 | rbi(6) | .351 ba
3b - shawn bowman - 1 for 4 | 2b(6) | .245 ba
1b - lucas duda - 2 for 3 | bb(17) | .309 ba
ss - ruben tejada - 1 for 3 | rbi(10) | .247 ba

a+:

2b - greg veloz - 1 for 5 | .224 ba
cf - kirk nieuwenhuis - 0 for 3 | 2 bb(9) | .245 ba
ss - reese havens - 0 for 3 | 2 bb(15) | .283 ba
1b - ike davis - 2 for 2 | 2b(9) | 2 bb(13) | .306 ba
sp - eric niesen - 6.0 ip | 3 h | r(er) | 2 bb | 5 k | 1-2 | 2.25 era
rp - nick carr - 3.0 ip | 2 h | 5 k | s(1) | 1.42 era

aaa:

rf - fernando martinez - 2 for 4 | 2b(11) | 3b(2) | rbi(14) | .287 ba
ss - jose coronado - 0 for 2 | bb(11) | .143 ba

aa:

1b - lucas duda - 1 for 3 | 2b(3) | bb(18) | .310 ba
3b - shawn bowman - 2 for 4 | .255 ba
ss - ruben tejada - 3 for 3 | 2b(5) | 3b(1) | bb(14) | .276 ba

a+:

2b - greg veloz - 0 for 4 | .216 ba
cf - kirk nieuwenhuis - 2 for 3 | 2 hr(5) | 3 rbi(12) | .257 ba
ss - reese havens - 1 for 3 | hr(6) | rbi(15) | bb(16) | .284 ba
1b - ike davis - 0 for 2 | 2 bb(14) | .300 ba
c - francisco pena - 1 for 3 | bb(2) | .233 ba
sp - brad holt - 6.0 ip | 2 h | 2 bb | 5 k | 2-1 | 4.38 era
rp - stephen clyne - 2.0 ip | h | 2 bb | 1.35 era

a:

3b - jefry marte - 2 for 6 | 2b(2) | hr(1) | 2 rbi(12) | .250 ba
ss - wilmer flores - 1 for 5 | 2b(4) | .275 ba
1b - eric campbell - 1 for 5 | 2b(3) | rbi(17) | .277 ba
lf - sean ratliff - 2 for 4 | 3b(1) | bb(6) | .346 ba
2b - josh satin - 2 for 5 | rbi(12) | .352 ba
c - kai gronauer - 3 for 4 | rbi(5) | bb(4) | .246 ba
sp - eric beaulac - 5.0 ip | 6 h | 4 r(3 er) | 3 bb | 8 k | 3.48 era
rp - kyle allen - 5.0 ip | 2 h | 6 k | 2-1 | 5.66 era

you forgot an important player for AAA

Tim Redding: 6 IP 6 H 1 R 5 K

aaa:

rf - fernando martinez - 1 for 3 | bb(6) | .289 ba
sp - dillon gee - 4.0 ip | 7 h | 4 r(4 er) | bb | 5 k | 4.94 era
rp - eddie kunz - 2.0 ip | h | bb | k | 2-1 | 2.02 era

aa:

c - josh thole - 1 for 3 | rbi(7) | bb(13) | .346 ba
dh - lucas duda - 2 for 4 | 2b(4) | 2 rbi(14) | .320 ba
3b - shawn bowman - 3 for 4 | 2b(7) | rbi(17) | .275 ba
ss - ruben tejada - 1 for 4 | rbi(11) | .275 ba
sp - michael antonini - 6.2 ip | 5 h | r(er) | 2 bb | 6 k | 4-1 | 4.88 era

a+:

2b - greg veloz - 0 for 3 | bb(11) | .211 ba
cf - kirk nieuwenhuis - 0 for 4 | .248 ba
ss - reese havens - 0 for 3 | bb(17) | .276 ba
1b - ike davis - 0 for 4 | .288 ba
c - francisco pena - 0 for 3 | .224 ba
sp - nicholas waecther - 5.0 ip | 3 h | bb | 4 k | 2.95 era

a:

3b - jefry marte - 0 for 6 | .237 ba
ss - wilmer flores - 1 for 6 | .268 ba
1b - eric campbell - 2 for 6 | 2b(4) | .280 ba
lf - sean ratliff - 2 for 6 | 2b(12) | rbi(15) | .345 ba
dh - josh satin - 2 for 4 | 2b(6) | rbi(13) | .359 ba
sp - elvin ramirez - 5.0 ip | 3 h | 2 r(2 er) | 2 bb | 4 k | 3.07 era
rp - josh stinson - 2.0 ip | 3 h | 2 r(2 er) | bb | 3 k | 4.02 era
rp - rhiner cruz - 2.1 ip | 4 h | r(er) | 2 k | hr/all | 2.63 era
rp - jimmy johnson - 1.2 ip | h | bb | k | 1.06 era

aaa:

rf - fernando martinez - 2 for 3 | 2b(12) | 2 rbi(16) | bb(7) | .300 ba
lf - nick evans - 0 for 3 | .097 ba
ss - jose coronado - 0 for 3 | .133 ba

aa:

c - josh thole - 2 for 4 | 2b(8) | bb(14) | .354 ba
1b - lucas duda - 1 for 4 | 2b(5) | .316 ba
3b - shawn bowman - 2 for 4 | .283 ba
ss - ruben tejada - 0 for 2 | 2 bb(16) | .268 ba
sp - dylan owen - 6.0 ip | 4 h | 5 r | 3 bb | 2 k | hr/all | 0-3 | 5.34 era
rp - roy merritt - 1.0 ip | h | 3.38 era

a+:

2b - greg veloz - 0 for 5 | .202 ba
cf - kirk niewenhuis - 0 for 3 | bb(10) | .241 ba
ss - reese havens - 0 for 3 | bb(18) | .269 ba
1b - ike davis - 1 for 3 | rbi(7) | bb(15) | .290 ba
sp - scott shaw - 6.0 ip | 8 h | 3 r(3 er) | 2 bb | 3 k | 3.60 era
rp - nick carr - 2.0 ip | 2 h | r | bb | k | 1-1 | 1.29 era

a:

ss - wilmer flores - 0 for 4 | .257 ba
1b - eric campbell - 0 for 3 | bb() | .273 ba
cf - sean ratliff - 1 for 4 | 3b(2) | rbi(16) | .342 ba
2b - josh satin - 1 for 4 | .354 ba
c - kai gronauer - 1 for 4 | rb(6) | .246 ba
3b - jefry marte - 2 for 4 | 3b(4) | .246 ba
sp - jeurys familia - 6.0 ip | 7 h | r(er) | bb | 5 k | 1.21 era
rp - erik turgeon - 2.1 ip | h | 3 bb | 4 k | 3.18 era