seems like it's working because he crushed a 2 run homerun today ... also looks like he added muslce, then again his body probably still hasn't filled out.

sorry for the bad quality. camera phone + not hd = bad quality

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seems like it's working because he crushed a 2 run homerun today ... also looks like he added muslce, then again his body probably still hasn't filled out.

sorry for the bad quality. camera phone + not hd = bad quality

Thanks for the effort,young man. Based on these pictures it looks as though FMart now has to drop his hands in order to get them ready for hitting position. I'm not crazy about that. Hopefully that isn't apart of his new technique.

That may be true, he's more closed now so he doesn't have to pull his front leg in to close up and then reopen it again to swing. He can just lift his leg and stride. I like that. I agree though Lucky, that his hands look too high, which may be a problem. I'd would have liked the same hand position in the first picture with the closed stance in the 2nd.

Although he did hit a long HR, I'd caution not to attempt to draw any conclusions based on 1 at bat against inferior competition.

from metsblog nypost.com:

Heralded Mets prospect Fernando Martinez says he might have to play for someone else if he wants to make the major leagues.

Martinez, an outfielder who got major-league playing time last season as a 20-year-old, now has his path to the bigs blocked by Jason Bay and Gary Mathews Jr., two offseason acquisitions.

"When [Carlos] Beltran had surgery, I thought I had a chance, and maybe they would give me a chance at center," Martinez told MLB.com. "But they get Matthews Jr., and now I'm not sure where I am. I just can't give up."

Martinez has been on the Mets' horizon for years, signing as a 16-year-old. But a string of injuries derailed his progress, and he's likely to start this seaon looking at another year in Triple-A.

That scenario has him thinking about moving on from the Mets.

"I know I'm a big league player, and I can perform at a high level," Martinez said. "It's in my hands, so I have to keep working hard and maybe earn a spot. Maybe I make it to the big leagues with the Mets or maybe another team, but I know I can do it. I just have to keep working and waiting for my opportunity."

He hit .176 with one homer and eight RBIs in 29 games with the Mets last season. He was rightfully criticized after failing to run out a popup in a game against the Nationals.

chosen to the All-Star Futures game in 2007 and 2008."

Okay..I like his attitude... But...this kid has to understand that he has done almost nothing to prove he can stay in the bigs...his
lack of hustle I will chalk up to a young man's
mistake...and hope that he learned a lesson..
He did look like he was way overmatched during his short tenure here with us...I hope he learns
patience...but more than that..I hope he learns
determination and what it take to stick in the MLs...a .176 major league avg. is far below acceptable..
Hang in there...show something...and you will be
patrolliong the OF in citi for years to come..

.176 in the bigs and .191 in winter ball during the regular season (though he's picked it up quite a bit during the playoffs.)

First and formost, he must stay on the field. If he didn't miss over 200 games in the last 3 years, maybe he'd be further along in his development.

And trust me, GMJ isn't blocking him from anything. Neither is Beltran for that matter. Carlos has only a few years left in his contract and that's when I think F-Mart may be ready so he'd be ready to step in and take over when that time comes (assuming they decide to not resign Beltran or Beltran retires because of his knee.)

He comes across a bit whiny here (I'm going to take my glove and go play somewhere else) and a bit out of touch with his current abilities (I can perform at a high level.)

He's 20 years old and should just focus his efforts on staying on the dang field and improving his game.

Is it me or dose F-mart's new batting stance kinda remind you of Jeromy Burnitz when he played for us

Sorry, I don't remember back that far.

you always want your ball player to be a little bit ****y and martinez's problem isn't hit talent, it's his healt

btw the homerun he hit today was not only off a lefty but a 1 handed homerun ... the power is there.

I think F-Mart needs a good talking to by an experienced, older peer in the Bigs. He should just shut up and earn his wings. Stay healthy. He was so overmatched in the Majors - hence, needs humble pill.

The Winter Leagues are not major league quality, and he, as well as we fans, would do well in remembering that. What does it say when the weak hitting Carlos Gomez tore up winter ball this offseason? He hit something like .380.

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.176 in the bigs and .191 in winter ball during the regular season (though he's picked it up quite a bit during the playoffs.)

First and formost, he must stay on the field. If he didn't miss over 200 games in the last 3 years, maybe he'd be further along in his development.

And trust me, GMJ isn't blocking him from anything. Neither is Beltran for that matter. Carlos has only a few years left in his contract and that's when I think F-Mart may be ready so he'd be ready to step in and take over when that time comes (assuming they decide to not resign Beltran or Beltran retires because of his knee.)

He comes across a bit whiny here (I'm going to take my glove and go play somewhere else) and a bit out of touch with his current abilities (I can perform at a high level.)

He's 20 years old and should just focus his efforts on staying on the dang field and improving his game.

He's not really projected as CF - he's more corner especially in a big CF and I agree. He's a bit too bulky in his hips and thighs to be an ideal CF, and I agree as well. He doesn't have the quickness. Mets could get by with him in CF in time of need, but as starter, I think we can, and should do better.

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That may be true, he's more closed now so he doesn't have to pull his front leg in to close up and then reopen it again to swing. He can just lift his leg and stride. I like that. I agree though Lucky, that his hands look too high, which may be a problem. I'd would have liked the same hand position in the first picture with the closed stance in the 2nd.

Although he did hit a long HR, I'd caution not to attempt to draw any conclusions based on 1 at bat against inferior competition.

I like the new stance. It allows him to stay closed like Tony said but the high hands allow his bat swing to take its natural lefty arch right into the zone with no other movements. Should give him a quicker bat right through his zone.

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Originally posted by Tonym713:
.176 in the bigs and .191 in winter ball during the regular season (though he's picked it up quite a bit during the playoffs.)

First and formost, he must stay on the field. If he didn't miss over 200 games in the last 3 years, maybe he'd be further along in his development.

And trust me, GMJ isn't blocking him from anything. Neither is Beltran for that matter. Carlos has only a few years left in his contract and that's when I think F-Mart may be ready so he'd be ready to step in and take over when that time comes (assuming they decide to not resign Beltran or Beltran retires because of his knee.)

He comes across a bit whiny here (I'm going to take my glove and go play somewhere else) and a bit out of touch with his current abilities (I can perform at a high level.)

He's 20 years old and should just focus his efforts on staying on the dang field and improving his game.

I totally agree on all points. Does sound whiny and immature, sounds like he's trying to convince himself he's good. If he thinks Matthews is blocking him then he needs to work on his confidence and toughen up. Maybe he should concentrate on staying healthy and then he can be counted on more. As for maybe playing for someone else, how is he going to make that happen? That's not in his control for a LONG time.

i wouldn't take that quote seriously, he barely speaks english and the quote was most likely taken out of context.

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wouldn't take that quote seriously, he barely speaks english and the quote was most likely taken out of context

Omar has the same problem....but NOTHING he says is EVER taken out of context!

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That may be true, he's more closed now so he doesn't have to pull his front leg in to close up and then reopen it again to swing. He can just lift his leg and stride. I like that. I agree though Lucky, that his hands look too high, which may be a problem. I'd would have liked the same hand position in the first picture with the closed stance in the 2nd.

Although he did hit a long HR, I'd caution not to attempt to draw any conclusions based on 1 at bat against inferior competition.

I like the new stance. It allows him to stay closed like Tony said but the high hands allow his bat swing to take its natural lefty arch right into the zone with no other movements. Should give him a quicker bat right through his zone.

How do high hands allow you to take a natural lefty arch with no other movement? Should his hands remain by his ear,the only pitch he could handle is at that level. The only way he could allow his bat and body to achieve tork resulting in a natural arch to his swing is lower his hands into hitting position. If you took notice last season Fernando Tatis also had his hands with his bat in a somewhat downward position over his shoulder exaggeratedly high and attempted to lower them as a part of his trigger. Unfortunately more times than not he failed to do it in time and ended up chopping a ground ball to 3rd base,resulting in many DP'S. I don't think FMart's bat level was a problem from what I had seen. As a matter of fact it resulted in no wasted movement,as his hands were already in hitting position. Unfortunately he simply wasn't ready to handle major league pitching. If you ask me,whoever came up with this idea is tinkering with the kids natural hitting style,which fundamentally looked fine. Of course his basic fundamentals of the Game needed work which unfortunately is indicative of youngsters passing through the Mets system. That however is an issue to be discussed at another time. I am abit dismayed at the kid's sudden crying over his place in the pecking order. Considering his professional experience now,I expected abit more maturity. He had best shut up,tighten his bootstraps and do some serious conditioning so he can stay on the damn field and continue to grow and develop into the ball player he thinks he can be.

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