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Now for the real question...do you know what rights were taken away?

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Originally posted by JamesBond:

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Now for the real question...do you know what rights were taken away?

"Following are examples of freedoms which President Bush and his fellow Republicans in Congress have already expunged (as reported by the Associated Press):

FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION: Government may monitor religious and political institutions without suspecting criminal activity to assist terror investigations.

FREEDOM OF INFORMATION: Government has closed once-public immigration hearings, has secretly detained hundreds of people without charges, and has encouraged bureaucrats to resist public records questions.

FREEDOM OF SPEECH: Government may prosecute librarians or keepers of any other records if they tell anyone that the government subpoenaed information related to a terror investigation.

RIGHT TO LEGAL REPRESENTATION: Government may monitor federal prison jailhouse conversations between attorneys and clients, and deny lawyers to Americans accused of crimes.

FREEDOM FROM UNREASONABLE SEARCHES: Government may search and seize Americans' papers and effects without probable cause to assist terror investigation.

RIGHT TO A SPEEDY AND PUBLIC TRIAL: Government may jail Americans indefinitely without a trial.

RIGHT TO LIBERTY: Americans may be jailed without being charged or being able to confront witnesses against them."

Taken from the Baltimore Chronicle

Sure, we don't tend to have sympathy for the rights of terrorists. We should, however, be concerned for the rights of people who have not been convicted of anything.

When Obama, his secret Muslim civilian conquering army and the Black Panthers seize your home and belongings, and throw you and your family into a concentration camp for all non-blacks, you should hope that you will have your rights intact.

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Here's An Interesting Link:

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When Obama, his secret Muslim civilian conquering army and the Black Panthers seize your home and belongings, and throw you and your family into a concentration camp for all non-blacks, you should hope that you will have your rights intact.

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Originally posted by mookie1:

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When Obama, his secret Muslim civilian conquering army and the Black Panthers seize your home and belongings, and throw you and your family into a concentration camp for all non-blacks, you should hope that you will have your rights intact.

that is too funny i know guys who actully say stuff like that and mean it

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Routine spying and infiltration of activist groups who have no history of causing problems.

Coordinated efforts not to comply with as many Freedom of Information requests as possible.

Classifying documents that have no need for such other than political gain.

Bush administration disregard for congressional supenoas.

Warrantless Wiretapping and collection of citizen email and phone records without cause.

The right to confiscate computers, cell phones, PDA's etc, and/or make copies from anyone flying international flights without any reason for such.

Monitoring and eavesdropping on private phone conversations of military personnel back to the U.S.

VP claims office of the VP is not part of the Executive branch but rather the legislative as tie breaker for Senate, and only matters related to the latter are subject to document and email preservation and supeona.

Bush - record breaking signing statements that alter legislation he decides he doesn't want to obey.

Frequent claim of Executive Priviledge to avoid transparency and congressional oversight as well as preserving or turning over gov't dcuments and emails as required under law.

Failure to abide by the Geneva Convention.

Here's An Interesting Link:

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[quote]17keith isn't all that wrong. There IS a double standard in this country as far as what counts as "freedom of speech". Some people consider it hip to endorse the lemming like leftist stance irregardless of how hurtful, predjudial, and biased it may be. Let someone on the right spew the same garbage and most likely he'll be up for some hate crime charge.

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Originally posted by mookie1:

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When Obama, his secret Muslim civilian conquering army and the Black Panthers seize your home and belongings, and throw you and your family into a concentration camp for all non-blacks, you should hope that you will have your rights intact.

that is too funny i know guys who actully say stuff like that and mean it

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Originally posted by 17keith:

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Here's An Interesting Link:

Here's something interesting also...how many days since someone was killed on U.S soil due to a terror attack.

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Originally posted by 17keith:

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Routine spying and infiltration of activist groups who have no history of causing problems.

Coordinated efforts not to comply with as many Freedom of Information requests as possible.

Classifying documents that have no need for such other than political gain.

Bush administration disregard for congressional supenoas.

Warrantless Wiretapping and collection of citizen email and phone records without cause.

The right to confiscate computers, cell phones, PDA's etc, and/or make copies from anyone flying international flights without any reason for such.

Monitoring and eavesdropping on private phone conversations of military personnel back to the U.S.

VP claims office of the VP is not part of the Executive branch but rather the legislative as tie breaker for Senate, and only matters related to the latter are subject to document and email preservation and supeona.

Bush - record breaking signing statements that alter legislation he decides he doesn't want to obey.

Frequent claim of Executive Priviledge to avoid transparency and congressional oversight as well as preserving or turning over gov't dcuments and emails as required under law.

Failure to abide by the Geneva Convention.

Here's An Interesting Link:

How many of these right actually have affected you. Has there been proof that the government has done this to you or your friends.

The terrorists will use our rights against us. They know what we will do and won't do.


You think you lost rights under Bush, wait until the messiah gets in. You already are losing your freedom of speech and freedom of press. The papers are so biased and afraid to say anything against his majesty that they would be called racist. They are so biased they don't even report the news as it actually happened. And you will not be allowed to criticize him as you will be called a racist.
Political correctness at it's finest.

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Originally posted by JamesBond:

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Originally posted by mookie1:

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When Obama, his secret Muslim civilian conquering army and the Black Panthers seize your home and belongings, and throw you and your family into a concentration camp for all non-blacks, you should hope that you will have your rights intact.

that is too funny i know guys who actully say stuff like that and mean it

mookie, there's people who post here on this board who believe stuff like that! It sounds like some fantastic Orwellian novel where we are destroyed by the MESSIAH, the ultimate wolf in sheep's clothing, powered by the Black Panthers, and a civilian army comprised of millions of crypto-Muslims who will stop at nothing to enslave us all!

What I wouldn't give to get inside their heads with a bucket of popcorn...

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It sounds like some fantastic Orwellian novel where we are destroyed by the MESSIAH, the ultimate wolf in sheep's clothing, powered by the Black Panthers, and a civilian army comprised of millions of crypto-Muslims who will stop at nothing to enslave us all!

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Originally posted by 17keith:
How many of these right actually have affected you. Has there been proof that the government has done this to you or your friends.

The terrorists will use our rights against us. They know what we will do and won't do.