Brashear, Avery, Calli, Dubinsky are all known to be tough and to love fighting. Love it or hate it, it will come in handy next year against "dirty" teams like Philly. Brashear was heavily needed because we know Pronger will try to land a cheap shot on one of our players to "introduce" himself.

Did you even watch the Rangers last season?

Avery can scrap with guys his size. True.
Dubi is willing, but often loses.
Cally rarely drops the gloves.
Brashear hugs his opponents and hits the back of their heads.

"Brashear, Avery, Calli, Dubinsky are all known to be tough and to love fighting."

What? Please think before posting.

I've read a lot of your anti-Brashear posts...here and on other blogs...and I'd like to know one thing; does Sather have a clue? Now, I come from Milburyland so I'm not throwing mud, but why dump Orr and take on this moron? It's like the Isles adding Darcy Tucker, Dave Schultz or Dale Hunter.

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Originally posted by NYI 1972:
I've read a lot of your anti-Brashear posts...here and on other blogs...and I'd like to know one thing; does Sather have a clue? Now, I come from Milburyland so I'm not throwing mud, but why dump Orr and take on this moron? It's like the Isles adding Darcy Tucker, Dave Schultz or Dale Hunter.

Well, Torts and Sather both feel that Brashear is a better skater and can get to pucks quicker.
Torts doesn't think that Orr can handle 3rd line responsibilites effectively, as Torts likes to roll 3 lines, not 4 - most of the time.
He feels that Brashear is more likely to add offense, too.

I'm not a coach and I have no NHL experience, but as a huge fan of the sport for a long time, I disagree with that choice.

I do hope I'm wrong.
Funny, though, many of us here on these boards feel the exact same way and are asking the same questions. I just hope all this proves to be the best move. Orr really did his job well and improved his game, BIG TIME. Toronto will be very happy with him.

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Originally posted by NYI 1972:
I've read a lot of your anti-Brashear posts...here and on other blogs...and I'd like to know one thing; does Sather have a clue? Now, I come from Milburyland so I'm not throwing mud, but why dump Orr and take on this moron? It's like the Isles adding Darcy Tucker, Dave Schultz or Dale Hunter.

Didn't Orr sign a 4 year deal? If so it's not like he was "dumped" he just got a MUCH better deal.
I've never been a Brashear fan but now that he's a Ranger I will become one.
You mention Dave Schultz and he's probably the NHL player I HATED most (I can still see him beating Dale Rolffe to death with NO Ranger coming to his defense- the moment that really made me question being a Ranger fan) but I can imagine that "if" he was a Ranger and Dale was a Flyer I would have enjoyed that exchange.
I LOVED Shanny giving Brashear a beat down but I also loved Messier knocking Kasper out with one punch but became a Kasper fan when he became a Ranger.
As PG pointed out, Avery, Callahan and Dubinsky are NOT fighters so the addition of Brashear doesn't make the Rangers a "tougher" team as far as fights go but, like Avery he brings an "edge" that infuriates the opposition, hopefully into taking penalties.
Game on!

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Originally posted by NYI 1972:
I've read a lot of your anti-Brashear posts...here and on other blogs...and I'd like to know one thing; does Sather have a clue? Now, I come from Milburyland so I'm not throwing mud, but why dump Orr and take on this moron? It's like the Isles adding Darcy Tucker, Dave Schultz or Dale Hunter.

I think I can speak for most Ranger fans when I say that this move simply boggles the mind. Orr is an enforcer in the classic sense in that he doesn't stir up stuff unnecessarily and doesn't go after players who aren't fighters. Brashear is just a pure goon. In my opinion, Brashear is the dirtiest player in the league and embarrassment to the game of hockey. He's a cheapshot artist, a thug, and a coward who likes to bully players who aren't a physical threat to him. I hate the fact that this slimeball now wears the sacred Ranger crest.

If we landed Chris Neil for a reasonable price like I was hoping for, you may have a point but I have to agree with what the others above said. Brashear is probably the most overrated enforcer in the game simply because he wrestles and tosses his opponents around rather than trying to punch them in the face, Dubi is a pretty terrible fighter but his heart is in the right place, Cally hardly ever fights and Avery is a very underrated fighter who can take on guys that are bigger than him and win.

We'll be a tough team next year but we're not even the toughest team in our own divison. Philly is gonna be a big pain to play against next year. They added some real toughness and skill.

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Originally posted by Double R:

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Originally posted by NYI 1972:
I've read a lot of your anti-Brashear posts...here and on other blogs...and I'd like to know one thing; does Sather have a clue? Now, I come from Milburyland so I'm not throwing mud, but why dump Orr and take on this moron? It's like the Isles adding Darcy Tucker, Dave Schultz or Dale Hunter.

I think I can speak for most Ranger fans when I say that this move simply boggles the mind. Orr is an enforcer in the classic sense in that he doesn't stir up stuff unnecessarily and doesn't go after players who aren't fighters. Brashear is just a pure goon. In my opinion, Brashear is the dirtiest player in the league and embarrassment to the game of hockey. He's a cheapshot artist, a thug, and a coward who likes to bully players who aren't a physical threat to him. I hate the fact that this slimeball now wears the sacred Ranger crest.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

I'm VERY curious to see what he brings to the table, now that we get to watch him in all 82 games if he's healthy and in the line-up.
Perhaps he brings an element that we're currently unaware of and that we may be pleasantly surprised by.

I think we all hope that's the case.

I'm not holding my breath.

I am open-minded, though.

I hope we are all wrong about him.

the good thing is I dont thik Torts will stand for his goonery or acts that will hurt the team. I remember when Roy went crazy, Torts just grabbed him and threw him down on the bench. So hopefully Torts keeps him and check and make sure his doesnt do anything that goon things that makes me sick with this signing

At the end of the day, you root for the jersey and not the player. Having said that, I can't think of any player in the NHL that I'd rather NOT have on the team than Brashear! Plain and simple, the guy is a dirt bag. He cheap shotted Betts last year and head hunts whenever he's out there. The game has passed Glenn Sather by and in two years when this goon retires, the Rangers will be trying to unload Gaborik's contract, just like they did with Gomez this year! The fact that Sather is still allowed to run this team is an insult to any true Ranger fan!

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What? Please think before posting.

PG, he'd have to have a brain to do that, it's time to find that ignore button.

RR, I totally agree on Brashear, I'd rather sign guys I could root for, not lowlife thugs, if only McSorley had done a better job way back when. And I love Sather trying to justify this move talking about how well Brashear skates, do the Rangers actually watch other NHL games, or do they just guess at what players are capable of? Not to mention 37years old.

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Originally posted by kc1313:

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What? Please think before posting.

PG, he'd have to have a brain to do that, it's time to find that ignore button.

RR, I totally agree on Brashear, I'd rather sign guys I could root for, not lowlife thugs, if only McSorley had done a better job way back when. And I love Sather trying to justify this move talking about how well Brashear skates, do the Rangers actually watch other NHL games, or do they just guess at what players are capable of? Not to mention 37years old.

Totally agree.
Brashear is NOT faster than Orr. No way.
Maybe he has better hands once in a while, but to me it's not worth making that move just so he can score a garbage goal or two.

This team will miss Orr, I think.
Brashear has no class.

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Originally posted by NYI 1972:
I've read a lot of your anti-Brashear posts...here and on other blogs...and I'd like to know one thing; does Sather have a clue? Now, I come from Milburyland so I'm not throwing mud, but why dump Orr and take on this moron? It's like the Isles adding Darcy Tucker, Dave Schultz or Dale Hunter.

FishStick, If you go on my Thread with Torts inteview with Michael Kay, Torts tells you why Brashear over Orr. Could be worst, he could have given someone a 15 yr contract.

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Originally posted by rangerboy11:
Brashear, Avery, Calli, Dubinsky are all known to be tough and to love fighting. Love it or hate it, it will come in handy next year against "dirty" teams like Philly. Brashear was heavily needed because we know Pronger will try to land a cheap shot on one of our players to "introduce" himself.

Sorry Rangerboy, but there is no way we are the toughest team in the league. We have one of the toughest guys in the league with Brashear, but no way in the world are guys like Avery, or Dubi, heavyweights. They won’t back down from anyone, but have a long way to go. Especially Dubi, he still has to learn how to fight and throw punches. Orr was working with him, but he still has a long way to go. He has the size and the heart, but not the skills yet. And yes it takes skills along with grit to be called a tough fighter in the NHL.

What this team has to learn to be an overall tough team, is what Iron Mike preached as a head coach. “My Teammate Right or Wrong” And I think Torts will teach the same thing. Ranger have to come together as a team and remember as Herb Brooks said, “It’s the name on the Front of the Jersey that counts, not the name on the Back”

Interesting that they chose Brashear over Orr. It was also interesting to read that they think he's a better skater and can offense. I say interesting, because he never showed any of that in the past, and he's 37 years old. One has to think that's very old for someone who plays the kind of game he plays.

But as I said before, it's going to be fun watching all the anti-Brashear crowd post how they love him after he wins his first fight.

By the way, interesting stat: He's only had 2 seasons where his +/- was on the + side. He's -84 lifetime. Will Torts accept that kind of unaccounability (my made up word)?