Originally posted by RZ Bure:
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Originally posted by biz1006:
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Originally posted by Mike22NYR:
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Originally posted by RZ Bure:
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Originally posted by NoMore1940:
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Originally posted by biz1006:
if they make a deal in the near future, there is no doubt in my mind that they will play the winter classic. This is just a negotiating ploy, i hope.
The Winter Classic is CANCELLED and no settlement lies in the immediate future.
I think it's important to reiterate this is a LOCKOUT by the OWNERS, not a strike by the players.
I think this may be the end of the National Hockey League.
This is what you get when you've got a JEWISH LAWYER running the league.
I've stated my stance on the players union here many times. While I feel their right to expect current contracts to be honored is more than fair, the rest of their approach has left me underwhelmed. Hiring Donald Fehr, bailing for Russia, the stubbornness, the "we got screwed last time" stuff....nobody in this league deserves to make more than 4, 5 mil per season. And the cab had expired, the owners have every right to want a new deal.
Totally agree. Fehr could care less if there is a hockey season. NHL players are also the second highest average saleried players being basketball.
The other thing that bothers me is the players going overseas. In the past, you would never see an American or Canadian player do that. Thats almost the equivelant to being a scab
I don't 100% agree.
RZ, if the players do not deserve more than $5 million per year why do the owners continue to offer contracts in the 7-8 million dollar range? This happens year in and year out. It doesn't make sense to me.
Mike 22, per this November 2011 article from yahoo
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ycn-10423863 the NHL is 3rd in average salary, behind NBA and MLB. Perhaps this changed in the last year though so you may be correct.
Also, why does it bother you that players are going overseas to play hockey? They need some cash flow during the lockout plus they need to stay fit and and in game shape. Its hard to stay in game shape if you are just skating at your local rink.
The owners are foolish, I'm not siding with them necessarily, I just don't believe that the nhlpa should be getting off scotfree. They offer the contracts because there is a market for these players, and that drives up the salaries, even with a salary cap in place. But if you we're to look at it from an outsider point of view, the NHL simply does not generate the kind of revenue or publicity that would warrant any player making signing 100 mil contracts.
As for your question on Europe, who is getting the opportunity to play overseas? Makin, ovechkins, etc...not third line players and goons. But the union is in place to unify them all, no? So what does it say when the rich go get richer while the lesser players don't get paid at all?